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Erysipelas

BlueButt Senior Member
edited January 2011 in PMWS and PDNS
Blondie is using the vaccine for the bug..... Erysipelas..... does any body know how it works and how long it takes, to take effect in the pig? Is it a live vaccine or a dead vaccine? How is it made and when was it first discovered?

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  • Stevie G Super Moderator
    edited January 2011
    BlueButt said:
    Blondie is using the vaccine for the bug..... Erysipelas..... does any body know how it works and how long it takes, to take effect in the pig? Is it a live vaccine or a dead vaccine? How is it made and when was it first discovered?

    Yes, it is an "attenuated" form of the disease which when injected makes the pigs/sows immune system produce antibodies, so that if it is exposed to the disease again it can fight off the attack.
    2 injections are needed, a month apart, to make the vaccine function properly.
    As to how its made etc., Blonde can answer that one!!!!!!!:D
  • BlueButt Senior Member
    edited January 2011
    Stevie G said:
    Yes, it is an "attenuated" form of the disease which when injected makes the pigs/sows immune system produce antibodies, so that if it is exposed to the disease again it can fight off the attack.
    2 injections are needed, a month apart, to make the vaccine function properly.
    As to how its made etc., Blonde can answer that one!!!!!!!:D
    Blonde does not seem to have come on..........so can you explain or some else explain how it is made whether it is a live vaccine or a dead vaccine.?????:confused: Does it cure the problem ever?:confused: Can you just not do it next year or are you doomed to vaccinate forever while ever you have pigs:confused:
  • Stevie G Super Moderator
    edited January 2011
    BlueButt said:
    Blonde does not seem to have come on..........so can you explain or some else explain how it is made whether it is a live vaccine or a dead vaccine.?????:confused: Does it cure the problem ever?:confused: Can you just not do it next year or are you doomed to vaccinate forever while ever you have pigs:confused:

    Blonde has got her hands full at the moment from what she has been telling me, which is why you haven't heard from her. She's having to get up very early in the morning(think 4 am ) and travel to work before a certain time as there are restrictions on vehicle movemets, because of the extremely hot wheather. She is then not able to travel back before a certain time. Late evening.
    Australia is the country of 2 extremes. The west being far to hot and dry(45 degrees C) and the east being floded in parts.
    Vaccines are used to create antibodies in the Sows blood so that when she is exposed to a disease she has protection against it.
    Alive vaccine is where they use a mild form of the disease to create anitbodies in the sows blood, and a dead vaccine is when they use a "mick' or use an "attenuated" version of the disease to produce antibodies in the sows blood.
    You only have a problem if your sow is exposed to a/the disease. Your sow may never be exposed to a disease so she will never have a problem. And if she is exposed to a/the disease the fact that she has antibodies in her blood will mean that the exposure to the disease is less likely to cause a massive problem. Infact it will lessen the blow greatly.
    You don't necessarily need to vaccination your sows atall as they may never have a problem, but as a saftey net and a cheaper option, exspecially for commercial breeders, it is a better option.
    Erysipelas for example is present on every farm(in the soil, on a sows tonsils, etc) and generally won't cause any problem unless conditions are right(ie extremely hot whether). Blonde has not vaccinated for years against Erysipelis and has never had a problem, until now, because of extreme temperatures. Now she has pigs suddenly dropping dead.
    She had 16 years with not paying for vaccine which has saved her alot of money. Ok so now she has lost some money, but shes gained more that shes lost!!!!! So now she is vaccination, as vaccination is cheaper than medication.
    For you, as a smallholder, vaccination is not that important as you won't loss a fortune if a disease outbreak occurrs. Most diseases are treatable with drugs, and if it becomes that bad then you can cull your sow/sows and start again.
    Haven't got the time to say too much more(and some would say I have said evough already!!!) as I need to be up early(4:45am), so until tomorrow or some when, Good night!!!!!!:D

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